Posted by Let's.... talk about the July Event

Lex 🦋 {Brief
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2021-07-08 10:05:13

So...the July Event

Please read before commenting!
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I am AWARE that the "full version" of the event is not available and it will not be until next year. I am AWARE that the admin and art teams put in a lot of work for this event. I am very thankful for them. Xylax, Deertush, 7th, you guys are amazing and I love you. This thread is in no way meant to downplay your skills or capabilities, because your art is fantastic and i and everyone else appreciate everything you do for us to keep the game fresh and beautiful. This thread is being posted because I would like to hear suggestions and input from the rest of the community, because i am aware that myself and most of my friends very much dislike what has happened to the July event in terms of the rehaul.



The Mechanics
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I'm not even sure where to begin with this.

Event Currency is Participation Currency.

Asking the community to pay a tax from their currency in order to participate is, quite frankly, a little bit outrageous. It would be like having to pay stink bugs in order to leave poop in other people's dens. It would be like having to use Khepri beetles in order to fight with your deity, How is anybody supposed to save for items for the event shop with this model?

Battling Sucks.

There's not much I can say other than this. Battling NPCs is a mechanic that not many people on Lioden like to do, but now the only way to get major event currency is to fight for it on a RNG based system that you have to...pay in order to access. With enemies that don't seem to be scaled correctly at all. It isn't even a "you lose so you lost energy try again later" situation. You're physically paying event currency to have your ass beaten by space dragons. And don't even get me started on the bosses, please. How am I supposed to beat a boss when random NPCs are killing me in three hits?

What the fuck is going on?

There's just so much I want to say but I don't know how to put it into words.
It feels like there's been little to no communication from the staff team and it frustrates me because of how much I love this game and how much I loved this event.
This isn't Wolvden, but it sure feels like Wolvden is starting to bleed in over here. July really right now feels like a glorified Lunar event, and I don't like that that's been done.
When the delay news was posted, that was just fine! Like I said, I love this art team, But... this isn't what was expected. I was expecting a delay for the entire event to be posted. This wasn't communicated at all and now people are confused on all fronts, from currency to what's going on to everything else.
I really, genuinely think most people were expecting different storylines from different perspectives from the characters we've been fawning over for years, with Tefnut up first. This isn't what anybody wanted.


On the Topic of Characters
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I don't even understand why anyone thought tossing all of the July NPCs out would be a good idea or where it came from. Nobody in the community asked for this. There was so much that could have been done, that I think most people expected. When Tefnut's backstory was teased, everyone was so excited! I was super excited to learn about the celestial world of the lions we loved. We watched Menhit grow up! She's my favorite NPC in the entirety of Lioden and now she's just... gone? So i can fight some random space dragons? I'm just...confused. Like why should i...care? Where is Tefnut's backstory? Apollyon's? Apedemak's? Obviously there was more to learn about him, since one of the explore encounters talked about how he was some crazy guy talking to the sky which implies our character has no fucking idea who Apedemak is from the jump.


In closing
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Comments I would like to point out
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Agryo

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Edited on 08/07/21 @ 12:10:44 by Lex (#56485)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:03:43
Please stop with the 'you have to be online all day constantly' hyperbole. Like I said on the other thread, I am far from on Lioden 'all day'; in fact, I think I'm usually on for a max of two hours, MAYBE three. I explore 3 /4 times a day.

I get 17-20 MS per explore, every time, constantly, and that is more then enough to get everything I'll want in a month. Because ya'll, you don't need everything right this second.



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2022-07-03 11:06:16
Well, I'm sorry, I didn't realize others had used it before. I am on about the same amount of time if not more than you and I am not near as lucky as you are. I am not an inpatient individual by any means, but I believe I have a right to be frustrated about the game mechanics.

:/



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2022-07-03 11:11:16
EldritchVulpine, if you're very lucky, it doesnt mean ALL other people will always be that lucky.

In ALL of today, constantly exploring, I found:
Found 5 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 09:27:45
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 08:56:17
Found 2 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 07:46:16
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 07:04:26
Found 4 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 07:04:07
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 05:13:28
Found 5 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 05:13:27
Found 4 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 04:04:04
Found 2 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 03:27:17
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 03:11:14
Found 4 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:42:43
Found 4 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:41:37
Found 4 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:41:06
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:39:45
Found 5 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:39:43
Found 2 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:39:41
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 02:39:32
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 01:38:27
Found 3 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 01:23:25
Found 2 meteorite shards exploring. 2022-07-03 00:03:09

That's a total of 72 shards in 24 hours (its late night here, I will go offline soon), Its ~14 steps in a day. 14 axion cores, IF I am incredibly lucky and get axion core every step/defeat every of the overpowered enemy (which is currently not possible).

14 x 30 = 420 axion cores. Minus 10 per day to enter for celestial females x2 times a day, 10 x 280 = 280.
I am left with ~150 axion cores if I want to participate in celestial raffles. Even if I do quests two times a day, that will only be +100 or so more. That's nowhere near enough to get what I want - AND even that much will only be possible WHEN battles are fixed, otherwise that 14 per day drops to 3-5 because enemies are impossible to beat!

That's pure numbers.

So please. Dont judge people by your own great luck. If you're lucky, it does NOT mean others are equally lucky.



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Edited on 03/07/22 @ 11:15:26 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:16:40
Thank you -- I am suuuper struggling at this event. Just because one player is lucky does not mean everyone is. It's July. Some people work jobs or spend this time visiting far away family for the summer that they might not ordinarily get the chance to see. I get the concept of "if you don't participate you don't win", but with this event more than others it seems a bit excessive to be demanding this much attention.



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2022-07-03 11:17:03
Hyena, I hate to break this to you but you just proved my point for me. You got tons of shards, plenty for whatever you could possibly want- unless, of course, you want literally everything, which is absurd. If you choose to spend those on entering the raffle or refreshing quests, that's your choice.



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:20:52
EldritchVulpine, no, I didnt prove your point. ~250 axion cores in a MONTH is NOT enough to get what I want.
And yes, wanting 1 of every thing is how Lioden works. In every event you get enough currency to at least get 1 of the things you want. That much currency is only good for 2 out of 6+ applicators, and for 1 background out of 10+. That's pathetic scraps compared to the amount of stuff shop offers, so obviously it is nowhere near enough.

This is not Wolvden. "You can only afford 10% of what you want" is Wolvden trait and it should stay on Wolvden.
If you think that is enough for you - good for you, enjoy the event please. That's your opinion. But its not mine, and also not the opinion of a good part of player base, as well.



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Edited on 03/07/22 @ 11:22:58 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:24:01
Yeah, I'm just. I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole.



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🌑 Night Moon 🌑 (#307346)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:26:05
there are people literally in this thread talking about how it's reminding them of wolvden and they left wolvden for that reason. So I agree, people that like those mechanics should enjoy them there. People left there and came here because of the way it's usually different. I don't really want to see wolvden mechanics bleed over into lioden. It's not fun.



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2022-07-03 11:27:49
EldritchVulpine, please dont! You obviously have your right to your own opinion, and if you feel the event is well balanced and you get enough currency in it - great! Congrats! Enjoy the event! Have a good day!

But we also have rights to our opinions, and we're not happy with the event's current balance. And being constantly told "you already get enough" to someone who feels otherwise, wont make us change our opinion.



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Edited on 03/07/22 @ 11:28:08 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:30:05
In the other events, I literally get like 600 event currency if not more. Having excess is almost certainly the norm on Lioden. It makes sense that we would be upset if in one out of the eleven events that have previously set the standard, it drastically falls short.

I loved Wolvden and left it too for the same reasons.



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Posted on
2022-07-03 11:30:08
I stand with you Hyena



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Seolhe (#136122)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 12:25:51
@EldritchVulpine you're 100% entitled to your opinion, and if you're happy with how the event works, I'm really glad for you! Really, I am!
You're obviously also welcome to share your opinion like anyone else, but please, maybe consider your tone when talking to other users? You're coming across as very dismissive, bordering on hostile. It's ok if you disagree with people, but I think there's better ways to voice that than by belittling people for feeling disappointed and frustrated because you don't think there's a problem.



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Posted on
2022-07-03 13:43:25
i dont have this issue because i had ms before the event completely changed



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🌑 Night Moon 🌑 (#307346)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 13:50:27
It looks like they've changed it to be far more balanced and I appreciate them for listening to feedback and trying to make their members happy. It's not a fun place to be in I'm sure, trying to keep everyone pleased. I don't envy them for having to do it haha.



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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Posted on
2022-07-03 13:54:07
I am greatly enjoying the recent changes! They indeed made the event far more balanced, and far less stressful!



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