Posted by Cracking The Rosette Code?

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2017-05-24 15:44:52
According to the Wiki,
"Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked."

This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked").


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Exhibit A:
Cream Rosette

Mother was chased, but had the following:
Base: Cream (White Nose)
Mane Type: Normal
Mane Color: Brown
Eye Color: Grey
Slot 1: Onyx Ripple
Slot 2: Chocolate Top
Slot 6: Feline 7 Black

Dad had the following:
Base: Silver Grey (White Nose)
Mane Type: Sideburn
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Lavender
Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown
Slot 2: White Tips
Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 8: White Undercoat
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Onyx Lace
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Exhibit B:
Gold Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Pink
Slot 1: Brown Mask
Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx

Dad had the following:
Base: Blush Rose (White Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Manakbir
Eye Color: Peach
Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger
Slot 2: Feline 1 Black
Slot 3: Rose Pelage
Slot 4: Maroon Pelage
Slot 5: Onyx Lace
Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver
Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger
Slot 8: White Panther
Slot 9: Under White 4
Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx
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Exhibit C:
Brown Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dun (White Nose)
Mane Type: Tsavo
Mane Color: Maroon
Eye Color: White
Slot 1: White Cobweb
Slot 6: Vitiligo 3
Slot 7: Vitiligo 2
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4

Dad had the Following:
Base: Onyx (Brown Nose)
Mane Type: Savage
Mane Color: Unholy
Eye Color: Saffron
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx
Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx

Do you see a pattern?
I do.
Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking.
See it?
Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare.

Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)




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Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180)

Evil [2k G2
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Posted on
2020-09-26 19:10:04
Got two different rosettes from two different litters, which is blowing my damn mind right now bc neither of them have the marking lol. Someone suggested I post here, so here we are:

Exhibit A: Red Heavy Rosette Cub

MOM MARKINGS:
Base: Ebony (Rare)
Mane Type: Barbary
Mane Color: Angelic
Eye Color: Red
Slot 1: Glacial Frosting (83%)
Slot 2: Feline 6 Ebony (56%)
Slot 3: Vitiligo 1 (53%)
Slot 4: Vitiligo 4 (49%)
Slot 5: Locust Ghost Feralis (75%)
Slot 7: Vitiligo 8 (100%)
Slot 10: Nimravus White (100%)

DAD MARKINGS:
Base: Ornament (Special)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Sidereal
Eye Color: Mint
Slot 1: Bone Underbelly (100%)
Slot 2: Scoria Puma (50%)
Slot 3: Feline 7 Elysian (97%)
Slot 4: Feralis White (85%)
Slot 5: Chocolate Dorsum (50%)
Slot 6: Aufeis Inverted Zebra (71%)
Slot 7: White Mottled Fissures (44%)
Slot 8: White Blaze (94%)
Slot 9: Under Silky 7 (11%)


Exhibit B: Onyx Heavy Rosette Cub

MOMS MARKINGS (note: she's the daughter of the dad above):
Base: Goldenrod (Rare)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Sidereal
Eye Color: White
Slot 1: Bone Underbelly (41%)
Slot 2: Hyena Stripes Scarce White (46%)
Slot 3: Feline 7 Elysian (74%)
Slot 4: Feralis White (60%)
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx (48%)
Slot 6: Aufeis Inverted Zebra (38%)

DADS MARKINGS:
Base: Maat (Special) (recently changed to Angelic)
Mane Type: Normal
Mane Color: Ardor
Eye Color: Sodalite
Slot 1: Feline 6 Ebony (80%)
Slot 2: Blue Sable (75%)
Slot 3: Red Wavelet (75%)
Slot 4: Henna Cheetah Heavy (38%)
Slot 5: Vitiligo 5 (82%)
Slot 6: Sunset Feralis (100%)
Slot 7: White Undercover (100%)
Slot 8: Ardor Feline (78%)
Slot 9: Classic Cream Front (22%)
Slot 10: Fiery Rugged Unders (75%)
Slot 11: Cloudburst Shroud (75%)



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Evil [2k G2
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2020-09-26 19:11:42
Add-on: technically there has to be some kind of stipulations in Lioden's actual code to give the appearance of Rosettes in the first place... It could be a random generator, or it could actually have some kind of conditions :o



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Oops! All Genders! (#36227)

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2020-09-26 19:13:41
I still have the theory that it's tied to felidae-related markings. Like the feline ones obvs, but also panther, puma, cheetah, feralis, etc



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Evil [2k G2
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2020-09-26 19:14:48
I... yeah, I think that's a good theory! Both fathers had the feralis marking in my situation (and even one of the mothers).



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Oops! All Genders! (#36227)

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2020-09-26 19:18:07
Yeah! They all have feline, but there's also nimravus, puma, mottled fissures, and cheetah! Those could all contribute to the theory



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Edited on 26/09/20 @ 19:18:34 by 🌈Insert🌈Clever🌈Nameï¿ (#36227)

WolfyRoo (#234008)

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2022-01-26 17:08:49
If anyone wants I have a male with a feline marking you can use to test this theory. https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794149756699

That is when I king him tho.



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Edited on 26/01/22 @ 17:09:56 by Wolfyroo (#234008)

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Posted on
2022-03-02 02:51:57
Just to add my own data!

Exhibit A: Gold Rosette Baby
Gold Rosette (Slot 18)


Mother: Pon Mom
Base: Cherry Blossom (Tan Skin)
Mane Type: Heavy
Mane Color: Augur
Eye Color: Galaxy
Slot 2: Black Pelage (24%)
Slot 6: Mottled Rosette (100%)
Slot 10: Feline 7 Ebony (6%)
Mutation: Leopon


Dad: Dense Dad
Base: Kimanjano (Greige Skin)
Mane Type: Savage
Mane Color: Soul
Eye Color: Iris
Slot 1: White Underfelt (100%)
Slot 2: Auburn Soft Rosette (100%)
Slot 3: Cinnabar Unders (41%)
Slot 4: Cimmerian Zebra (13%)
Slot 5: Clay Panther (63%)
Slot 6: Mottled Rosette (100%)
Slot 7: White Mottled Fissures (100%)
Slot 9: Inverted Heavy Rosette White (100%)
Mutation: Dense Patches

Edit:
As per your theory, the Felidae related marks do correlate to my case as well! Mom has a Feline mark and Dad has a Panther mark.

Perhaps there's some trigger that relates to real world science? I haven't looked into it, but big cats with rosettes (Jaguars, Leopards, etc) might have something to do with it?



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Edited on 02/03/22 @ 03:00:48 by emma [full bo 3x ros g2 kiman] (#209631)

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Posted on
2022-03-04 10:09:27
My current queen’s dad had feline markings, but then he also had rosettes and her mom was a Leopon, sooo



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2022-03-04 10:15:23
I got a Dark Brown Heavy Rosette spawn on a cub. Her mom was a NCL, her dad doesn't have any Feline markings, neither did her mom

Dark Brown Heavy Rosette cub

Father



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Oops! All Genders! (#36227)

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2022-03-04 18:56:52
@SonderCerebro - Her dad actually has a ton of felidae-related markings, Including several rosettes! He has 2x feralis, 3x rosettes, tuxedo, margay, and siamese. These all support my theory that markings derived from the patterns of real-life felines may produce rosettes



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Edited on 04/03/22 @ 18:57:04 by 🌈Insert🌈Clever🌈Nameï¿ (#36227)

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2022-03-06 03:26:36
Oooooh, I thought you meant markings called 'Feline'



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Oops! All Genders! (#36227)

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Posted on
2022-03-06 08:58:36
lol they definitely count!



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Posted on
2022-03-08 09:11:49
Dad
Slot 1: Onyx Cape (28%)
Slot 2: Feline 7 White (43%)
Slot 3: Proteles Heavy Ginger (100%)
Slot 4: Henna Cape (37%)
Slot 5: White Marbled Unders (48%)
Slot 6: Nimravus Gold (82%)
Slot 7: Cream Inverted Brawl (100%)
Slot 8: Gold Rosette (100%)
Slot 9: White Sideburn (70%)
Slot 10: Onyx Rosette (100%)

Mom
Slot 1: Ivory Vesture (83%)
Slot 2: Dark Brown Cheetah Heavy (81%)
Slot 4: Classic Royal Front (87%)
Slot 8: Auburn Heavy Rosette (56%)
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4 (76%)

Baby
*has additional markings due to RMA but was born with inverted gold rosette in slot 17



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Edited on 08/03/22 @ 09:12:27 by Charity♥ (#115062)

Talmoi (#16689)

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Posted on
2022-03-12 02:54:13
Just had a 0 Mark NCL pop out two different rosette cubs in the same litter!

Mother
No markings.

Father.
Slot 1: Noctis Undersides (100%)
Slot 2: Vitiligo 8 (92%)
Slot 3: Scoundrel Pelage (52%)
Slot 4: Onyx Panther (51%)
Slot 5: Vitiligo 3 (100%)
Slot 6: Briar Soft Rosette (100%)
Slot 7: Cinnabar Crackle (46%)
Slot 9: Vitiligo 9 (100%)

Cub 1 / Briar Rosette
Slot 1: Noctis Undersides (54%)
Slot 2: Vitiligo 8 (44%)
Slot 7: Cinnabar Crackle (29%)
Slot 10: Briar Rosette (77%)

Cub 2 / Inverted Cream
Slot 1: Noctis Undersides (53%)
Slot 2: Vitiligo 8 (40%)
Slot 3: Scoundrel Pelage (22%)
Slot 4: Onyx Panther (29%)
Slot 6: Inverted Rosette Cream (97%)
Slot 7: Cinnabar Crackle (25%)
Slot 9: Vitiligo 9 (43%)

Will definitely keep and re-breed the mother and see what happens!






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Edited on 12/03/22 @ 06:04:38 by Talmoi (#16689)

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Posted on
2022-03-12 16:03:00
huh, the one lioness (a tree cub i nabbed) her dad had two feline markings, although tbf he did have five rosette markings and her one is the one in his 10th slot



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