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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

Seabunny (#114144)

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2017-09-18 02:06:40
I don't think its Amber. It LOOKS like it, but Amber is in the same category as Qahir, and so far no combos have featured bases in the same category as they are (so Cream Solid Dark, in this case). Cherry Blossom sounds good, as does cameo and buff.



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2017-09-18 02:12:20
I think I tried Cameo yesterday? I got rid of the paper I was taking notes by mistake, so I'll have to begin anwe :'D



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Seabunny (#114144)

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2017-09-18 02:16:01
Maybe buff then? There is definitely a "pinkish" tint to it but I don't think its nacre.



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2017-09-18 02:19:31
I'm thinking it's a mix of a "cream" cream base, and one that has pink/purple to it, like Cinnabar, Maroon, Blush Rose, Manakbir...Nacre and Cherry Blossom would fit in my opinion, but so far no luck.



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Seabunny (#114144)

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2017-09-18 02:30:22
Maroon definitely, blush rose as well. I want to try more combos!



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Etch (Mephi) (#52901)

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2017-09-18 03:02:38
I tried the following but no luck:

Manakbir x Champagne
Manakbir x Amber
Manakbir x Russet
Cherry Blossom x Opal



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2017-09-18 03:05:19
Hmm. With Cairngorm and Madagascar we saw there is an entire side that has the same color group as the resulting base, it'd make sense if at least one of the two was cream for Qahir, so I don't think Manakbir x Champagne can be possible :S

I'm going to try Amber x Maroon.



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2017-09-18 03:17:06
Well, we have pearl and sidereal in combo 1, Kimanjano and a missing super special in combo 2, sunset and sepia in combo 3, I guess lilac plus another super special is in the last combo. I just can't think of anything like pearl, lilac and Kimanjano tbh



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2017-09-18 03:17:32
What if... we're looking at the wrong extra color group for Qahir? Could the darkish parts be black, and not purplish?

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Perhaps we should look at bases like Onyx, Ebony, Flint...? Lilac could still be it.




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cin☆vo h2hoe (#106573)

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2017-09-18 03:18:49
I will riot if lilac doesn't make qahir lol. if you go in wardrobe and put a lilac mark over qahir it matches perfectly

I tried lilac x cameo and lilac x buff and no luck.



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2017-09-18 03:20:08
I'm going to see if Lilac x Buff gives anything.



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2017-09-18 03:46:01
So far, lot's of hazelnut, dark brown, teardrop... Maybe teardrop x lilac could be it?



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Etch (Mephi) (#52901)

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2017-09-18 03:51:10
Did these + no luck.

Lilac x Russet
Lilac x Cameo
Lilac x Amber

Maybe the cream base is a common? The original post didn't specify a special base for the first group. Maybe that wasn't an accident?



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2017-09-18 03:51:54
Are there any common bases with speckles?



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Posted on
2017-09-18 03:54:41
Champagne; and the News post did note now the bases were all Specials for Cairn~



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