Typhon brings up a good point.

Why should players have to pay more/spend extra time earning currency for an Applicator, that could very well be expensive, screw up and get both marks that are the same and have to deal with the consequences? What if they don't have the funds for another applicator? Why should they not be able to pass both marks on, especially if they wanted it to be that way?

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The change depreciates the value of current kings with double marks. I don't breed for double marks myself but I definitely enjoyed having the option to seek out a stud with multiple copies of a marking I particularly hoped to get into my pride. I was happy to pay a little more for better odds. Now, there's no point to paying extra for a stud with doubles. Studs with doubles may as well have empty marking slots since they cannot pass the same marking twice - but because the slot is filled, their minimum stud fee will still be higher! That's crappy for the owner of the stud and frustrating for players who used to utilize those kings to just single marks to pass to their lionesses. I still catch myself going 'ooh, he has two copies of (marking I want)' only to remember he's no more useful to me than a stud with one. Sure, he still has a higher chance of passing one copy of the mark, since he has two chances, but if one slot rolls to pass then the remaining slot can't pass anything. If my lioness has nothing in that slot either, it's pointless enough to be annoying.

It makes fiddling with event/referral apps less fun. Again, doubles of markings did have some value. Now, they don't, so if that app decides to give you nacre unders three times in a row, congrats, you've wasted two slots on your king, whatever you spent on the apps, and if you need to remove the extra copies, you need to buy GB unless you can find someone selling removers for SB/trade something for them.
I do not buy GB to fix failures.
I buy GB to have fun. Happily! But removing markings isn't fun.

Some marks do look fantastic doubled, too. I did kinda want to try for some doubled brindles, eventually, and the new web markings will also look amazing doubled, but there's a lot less point in applying those markings multiple times now, so I don't think I'll bother.

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That's another really great point, Quagga, about the minimum stud fee while a marking is basically void. Things just don't match up with this system. :[

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I am also quite disheartened. I was trying for a considerably long time to breed a double F7G (and later wanted to do a triple), plus double red panther in different slots. This was simply because the project seemed challenging and quite frankly, I just really love F7G. Then, I also had a project with double clay panther. I don't like onyx panther as much, and just one clay panther marking looks too light. Indeed, I really love the double layering and I do think it adds a level of fun and challenge to the game. GB was spent on studding to the rarer slot lions and in kinging my side's kings early for these projects. Furthermore, I bought multiple applicators so I could apply those to my king, so his cubs could have said marking repeatedly. They'll look fine with one marking, but I too really love the look of multiply layered cloudburst web. I was planning on using the gnawrocks on the possible breed only marking of tigons. I'd be sad to waste the gnawrocks that I've been grinding for, just to use on a marking that is "special" but still arguably common.

I would have not found out about this issue if I hadn't used the helper hub. A clearer message informing us of this would have been really appreciated. I'm not asking for this to be easy, but at least possible c:

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Yeesh. All I did was explain why I don't support. I get it. You don't have to keep talking down to me like I'm an idiot and wrong for disagreeing. That's why suggestions exist, right? To hear everyone's opinions?

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I agree with VampireKetsuki
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No hate though <3

I support everything the admins do- if they do something its (usually) for a GOOD reason, if any admins read this "thank you for making this game awesome!!"

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I honestly had no idea about this, thank you
I'm offering my full support, as I was JUST about to start a breeding project relating to multiple of the same mark, but I'm glad I didn't waste apps or GB for nothing.

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"No hate though <3

I support everything the admins do- if they do something its (usually) for a GOOD reason, if any admins read this "thank you for making this game awesome!!" "

Another person here without even making points. If you don't like it give me some reasons why. The point isn't if they had good reason or not. It's that they didn't ask or tell us about it. While my first point has to do with wanting the old system back (as do many people) the biggest thing on there is communication.



"I honestly had no idea about this, thank you
I'm offering my full support, as I was JUST about to start a breeding project relating to multiple of the same mark, but I'm glad I didn't waste apps or GB for nothing. "

I am so glad you saw this thread before starting your project! People need to be informed.

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Before I cast my vote ob this. Though this is thoroughly typed out. My issue is the cub that was sired by your male. It takes me to a female that was bred. If you can provide an accurate picture of what the cub looked like, then that may help. I have seen cubs and adults with double the same markings, if they blend in well or show well with other markings, then it's worth the breeding for.

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i mean i understand where you are going but... wouldn't that take up marking slot space? and i don't quite understand the reasoning in wanting the same exact marking multiple times it all looks the same... not trying to be insensitive or anything just don't understand the reason for wanting to breed double or triple of the same marking onto a lion

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Because doubling up some markings makes them stronger. And because we used to be able to do so and they took it away without telling us.

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