Posted by Pick Main Lion Pronouns (7/23/21)

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2019-05-04 11:12:04
Edit: Tl;Dr- let us pick the pronouns in the event dialogue (and maybe explore)

Edit 2: 7/23/21 Revamped for 2021 because this is getting attention again i guess

The updates for more LGBTQ+ options for the pride leader has been AMAZING, and I'm very thankful that the staff have been adding things to make the game more open. However one big problem remains: events!

Basically, the storylines for events are a little older and harder to fix than just the art and titles. They're all male-centric because they were written before, so they say things relating only to male lions and use masculine pronouns and such. I believe that it would be a worthwhile task to make it an option under your Main Lion, perhaps in Studding Settings, that would allow you to pick the pronouns that your lion uses in the event dialogue. This would be set to "He/him" by default, and would simply be more customization options for players. This isn't only a feature to be used by LGBTQ+ players. This feature would provide an more in depth roleplay experience for players that simply want to have a leader that isn't male. Even if it isn't retroactively applied to all events, it could be considered going forward with new events.

You're free to debate the implementation below but if you're only here to shit on LGBT people then just. Don't.

edit 1, a point i didn't even consider (via Kaito):
"Not to mention the hell that could unleash with people using pronouns on bios- my own bio lists "He/Him" as pronouns I accept. If you used this extension, that he/him could become another "they/them" even though i have that listed already, or even "she/her", a pronoun i am uncomfortable with and do not want you to use for me."
tl;dr: it might fuck up someones personal pronouns on their bio and you'd end up calling them the wrong thing


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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:

-What if I don't want this?

The default would be set to he/him, so this wouldn't effect any player that doesn't manually change the settings.



-Can't you just download an extension?

No. First of all, there is no way the extension would be able to differentiate between event pronouns and user pronouns. This would be literal chaos when you literally cannot tell how to correctly refer to someone and would misgender EVERYONE on the site. Secondly, if your website requires third party extensions, it's maybe not that good. I'm really looking at you, modern Tumblr.



-This is a waste of time.

I mean, that's your opinion I guess, but it's not like it would affect how fast art is being made. The point of these forums is to suggest things. I could go on any suggestion in existence and say it's wasting time that could be spent on other projects. The limiting factor in Lioden content being rolled out is generally the amount of artists the site employs, not the amount of coders.



-I don't want to use this.

That's fine. You don't have to, and I can't tell you how to vote. But please keep in mind that this would be great for a VARIETY of play styles.



-How would this work?

I imagine that the pronoun selection could be a drop-down menu. It would work somewhat similarly to how names already work, where the website fills in the blanks based on the values set. In the names case, it would be going from "(king.name), you have done well today" to "Queen Sappho, you have done well today". In the pronouns case, it could be longer strings of text to deal with the grammar problem. "V'kai flicked his tail towards you. "This is (king.name), and (pronoun.string) come to join the battles!" changes to "V'kai flicked his tail towards you. "This is Queen Sappho, and she has come to join the battles!" to "V'kai flicked his tail towards you. "This is Queen Sappho, and they have come to join the battles!"
If Lioden wanted to implement using multiple sets of pronouns, it could be a check-list and the text output could randomly assign one of the pronouns, but I think this would be a lot harder.



-Wow, Sol, how are you so cool all the time?

Finally, the most frequently asked question on this ENTIRE website. It's because I'm a cat, and cats are inherently cooler than people. Sorry.


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This suggestion has 347 supports and 143 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/08/23 @ 03:59:38 by Sol 🏳‍🌈🐈 {g2} (#132333)

— alois (#108236)

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Posted on
2019-05-04 11:13:52
I support. Personally, I can care less about the story line pronouns since.. Most of them are bad storylines, or horribly written :P



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BobtailπŸ† (#79288)


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Posted on
2019-05-04 15:03:40
My idea is this:
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Support!



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Sol
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Posted on
2019-05-04 15:06:52
@Bobtail that's exactly what I meant!



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Fawn (#3654)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 14:57:20
No support. I don't see this as necessary and I would rather the coders and admins spend there time and energy on more interesting thing.



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
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Posted on
2019-05-06 15:22:11
It’s not like this has to take any priority, but it could be an easily implemented feature some would probably appreciate for one reason or another; I’m all for this.



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Edited on 06/05/19 @ 15:22:27 by R (#171993)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 15:25:59
I support! My other king had a lab test frog on her so it was kinda weird doing the Wenet story



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Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-06 15:28:33
I mean it seems like it would take quite a bit of work to implement, and not something that should take priority. Besides, having someone refer to your king as male even if hes lab frogged isnt that weird? idk. Im neutral, I guess, but leaning towards no support



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Venex 🌸
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Posted on
2019-05-06 15:29:26
Big support! Its not like its gonna hurt anyone if it is added and not every suggestion is being suggested as being the TOP priority. I just think it'd be nice for my king to go by the same pronouns I do.



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Posted on
2019-05-06 15:55:16
But I wanted her to be a female king? So more like a queen. Its weird when Wenet called her big boy because I wrote she and her pronouns in all her biography and it unlocked a sapphic title too. Sapphic is a word for wlw so she's not a boy lol



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Fawn (#3654)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 16:18:11
There are programs and browser add-ons that ya can get to change the words to what ever ya want. So I don't see why the coders should wast there time on something that users can do themselves.



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Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-06 16:20:59
^^ yes



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Sol
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Posted on
2019-05-06 16:21:28
You can't possibly create an addon that only changes pronouns related to your lion. It would change ALL pronouns on the site, no matter who it's referring to.
Plus, you're not even ALLOWED to do that. It's specifically stated in the lioden rules that you can't use any extensions to modify the site.



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Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-06 16:22:46
You could tbh I can link some once I find them. And only cheating add ons are not allowed



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Sol
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Posted on
2019-05-06 16:26:42
The point still remains there is no way in HELL you could program an extension that only changed your pronouns. All pronouns in the entire site would be changed to the selected ones if it's an external extension.
Stop clogging my thread with this. No support and move on.



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Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-06 16:32:20
Its called expressing your opinion. And debating. In a suggestion thread. hope youre joking...



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