Posted by Pick Main Lion Pronouns (7/23/21)

Sol
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{g2} (im autistic) (#132333)

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Posted on
2019-05-04 11:12:04
Edit: Tl;Dr- let us pick the pronouns in the event dialogue (and maybe explore)

Edit 2: 7/23/21 Revamped for 2021 because this is getting attention again i guess

The updates for more LGBTQ+ options for the pride leader has been AMAZING, and I'm very thankful that the staff have been adding things to make the game more open. However one big problem remains: events!

Basically, the storylines for events are a little older and harder to fix than just the art and titles. They're all male-centric because they were written before, so they say things relating only to male lions and use masculine pronouns and such. I believe that it would be a worthwhile task to make it an option under your Main Lion, perhaps in Studding Settings, that would allow you to pick the pronouns that your lion uses in the event dialogue. This would be set to "He/him" by default, and would simply be more customization options for players. This isn't only a feature to be used by LGBTQ+ players. This feature would provide an more in depth roleplay experience for players that simply want to have a leader that isn't male. Even if it isn't retroactively applied to all events, it could be considered going forward with new events.

You're free to debate the implementation below but if you're only here to shit on LGBT people then just. Don't.

edit 1, a point i didn't even consider (via Kaito):
"Not to mention the hell that could unleash with people using pronouns on bios- my own bio lists "He/Him" as pronouns I accept. If you used this extension, that he/him could become another "they/them" even though i have that listed already, or even "she/her", a pronoun i am uncomfortable with and do not want you to use for me."
tl;dr: it might fuck up someones personal pronouns on their bio and you'd end up calling them the wrong thing


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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:

-What if I don't want this?

The default would be set to he/him, so this wouldn't effect any player that doesn't manually change the settings.



-Can't you just download an extension?

No. First of all, there is no way the extension would be able to differentiate between event pronouns and user pronouns. This would be literal chaos when you literally cannot tell how to correctly refer to someone and would misgender EVERYONE on the site. Secondly, if your website requires third party extensions, it's maybe not that good. I'm really looking at you, modern Tumblr.



-This is a waste of time.

I mean, that's your opinion I guess, but it's not like it would affect how fast art is being made. The point of these forums is to suggest things. I could go on any suggestion in existence and say it's wasting time that could be spent on other projects. The limiting factor in Lioden content being rolled out is generally the amount of artists the site employs, not the amount of coders.



-I don't want to use this.

That's fine. You don't have to, and I can't tell you how to vote. But please keep in mind that this would be great for a VARIETY of play styles.



-How would this work?

I imagine that the pronoun selection could be a drop-down menu. It would work somewhat similarly to how names already work, where the website fills in the blanks based on the values set. In the names case, it would be going from "(king.name), you have done well today" to "Queen Sappho, you have done well today". In the pronouns case, it could be longer strings of text to deal with the grammar problem. "V'kai flicked his tail towards you. "This is (king.name), and (pronoun.string) come to join the battles!" changes to "V'kai flicked his tail towards you. "This is Queen Sappho, and she has come to join the battles!" to "V'kai flicked his tail towards you. "This is Queen Sappho, and they have come to join the battles!"
If Lioden wanted to implement using multiple sets of pronouns, it could be a check-list and the text output could randomly assign one of the pronouns, but I think this would be a lot harder.



-Wow, Sol, how are you so cool all the time?

Finally, the most frequently asked question on this ENTIRE website. It's because I'm a cat, and cats are inherently cooler than people. Sorry.


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This suggestion has 348 supports and 143 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/08/23 @ 03:59:38 by Sol 🏳‍🌈🐈 {g2} (#132333)

Fawn (#3654)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 17:45:31
It's against the rules to use add ons to cheat but even the admins have suggested users use add ons to change images and words.



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Cowrdly|CLEAN 3G 5k
smilus (#170432)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 17:57:32
I don't want to get banned but like, we all know why theres so many no supports lol



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Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-06 17:59:41
Im not anti LGTBQ sis



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
Cinnabar (#171993)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 17:59:44
I honestly couldn't understand not supporting this if I tried; it shouldn't affect anything that much



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— alois (#108236)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 18:15:00
I don't see why y'all don't support. You don't have to choose your pronouns.



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pretzelbear🥨 (#159405)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 18:17:26
Again, I'm sorta neutral. My king is frogged, and I view him as less of a female, more of a male that just looks feminine and doesn't have a mane. Not trying to hate on the suggestion though, it could be a viable option if it's easy to implement!



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Halo {G3 3xRose
Ferus} (#82335)

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Posted on
2019-05-06 20:55:09
The site already puts your kings name on everything, pronouns are just a step up from there. Theoretically its not a very hard coding factor at all since it’s essentially just repurposing the name input tool. Y’all complaining about coding don’t really have anything to worry about.
Full support.



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Tae (#150780)

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Posted on
2019-05-07 14:53:06
anyways, I support. It's not going to kill anyone if they decide to create a simple 'find + replace' code. Obviously, it's a minor addition to the site, but it's something they can finish in a short period of time. This is clearly something they can play with on the side while also doing other and more important updates, so I don't understand this 'worry' about priorities. It's completely optional so I don't see the problem if they decide to add this..?? If you don't see it as something important then it can be ignored in game. Easy!



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Edited on 09/05/19 @ 12:32:41 by Tae (#150780)

Mochi (rolling
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Posted on
2019-05-07 14:54:02
right so I was looking through my comments from last night
and idk what was wrong with me, I was real tired
support, now lmao, just as long as it aint first priority



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✧ Iba ✦[G2Splash
TriRos1.5k] (#63625)

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Posted on
2019-05-08 08:11:47
Tbh I respect the whole of people wanting to choose pronouns but this seems admittedly entirely not needed as well as a sort of additional thing apparently wanting to be added when there's 10x more important things needed to be fixed like bugs or marks or w/e. No support.



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Edited on 08/05/19 @ 08:12:26 by ✿ Flower ✿ (#63625)

Fern [side] (#163971)

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Posted on
2019-05-08 21:32:57
LATE EDIT: I still support! It would be perfect for users with lab-frogged lead lions or who just want them to be different in lore.



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Edited on 26/11/20 @ 11:37:53 by Cassandra 🌈 (#163971)

Roy Mustang (#63902)

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Posted on
2019-05-09 18:25:01
I support! The suggestion is something to think about at the very least, and its not like it needs to be implemented right away. It'd just be a feature that adds a lil' more customization to the game. Not sure what the big deal is, considering it'd be completely optional [from the sound of it].

While I'd personally prefer it to be an option for your account, the lion one is just as fun!



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Scout the Arsonist (#158691)

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Posted on
2019-05-11 10:26:59
I'm on the fence... I thoight our kings were the ones in the story and not the player??



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
Cinnabar (#171993)

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Posted on
2019-05-11 11:01:19
Well, yeah, but some of us might feel that we ARE our king in some cases, so this could help with immersion



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Anonymous (#44152)

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Posted on
2019-05-11 11:01:27
Support, it'd be nice for players to have the gender of their king or queen or simply lion seen in the story writing for events



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