Posted by Enable Double Markings Again [1200+ Support]

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2017-10-13 11:20:15

Enable Double Markings When Breeding Parents (Or One Parent) That Have(/Has) The Same Marking In Separate Slots, Again.



This was briefly, although windedly, mentioned in another thread I made.

In the thread I touch on and give examples as to how there was once a time where if you had two markings of the same color in separate slots they could pass to the children. While everyone accepted this as the normal. and for a lot of people it became a massive breeding project, it was recently revealed that it was supposed a bug in the coding.

However, I think the way it worked was just fine. My suggestion is to "Bring this bug back", but in a sense that it would not longer be a bug. Abbeys post says they have some coding that prevents this, and for some reason it just wasn't working for... years. My suggestion is to remove that block and let it be a non-bug possibility.

In my thread a lot of people tried debating this, and boy was it a headache, but I assume it will happen here too. I'm going to add some things below to hopefully ease the amount of debate.

1. This type of breeding is not as easy as you would think it to be, as it takes two free slots of the same marking (in separate slots).

2. This type of breeding is not hard to avoid. The with vs. the without is very unfair. With the 'fixed' system you just cannot breed more than a double (and that takes two grawrocks, which means if the dad has double he can't pass even that). Gnawrocks cost 15Gb+ each. And then its useless because you can't replicate the markings without the gnawrocks again (resee king with double marks). To avoid this breeding you merely have to glimpse at the markings on a stud vs a lioness. If you don't pay attention and miraculously you get a double, and its in a slot you need, you just need to use a marking removal. that's 1Gb vs 30Gb+.

3. This suggestion is about the freedom of breeding (ThisWasGood). When this 'bug' was present no one was complaining. If they were, the staff would have caught the issue much sooner instead of it persisting until they just happened to fix it by implementing a new system. No one forces you to breed double marking/color lions, but this fixed system forced anyone with a project like this to stop. Lots of people have lost so much money. Some have even lost all drive to play the game for the breeding part (Ie: they just gather and sell items or currency and have minimal or no lions).

Some notable links that I thought were good from the other thread;
From Cin: "What you enjoy vs. what others enjoy" & "The difference in stacked markings"
From Ningoat: "Re: You enjoy vs others enjoy"
From E-quagga: "Mutations vs Markings"
There are more, if you care to browse the thread linked in the first sentence.

Here are some examples, from the thread, of people who's projects have been ruined;
Lex's Cream & 2x Onyx Rosette Project
Typh's 2x Onyx, Gold, Mottled Rosette Project
Maiq's 2x Clay Panther Project
Sabryn's 2x (and later 3x) F7G Project
Arctos' Multi-Celestial Speckles Project
Sasa Had a Double Onyx Margay Project



I would like to clarify, to quote Abbey; "If you want it reverted back to the old system, we're more than willing to review it again if a suggestion topic can get support specifically about the duplicate markings issue." Just because it was a bug at one time, does not mean it cannot become a real, non-bug, game feature.

Sasa's thread (no longer bumped)




This suggestion has 1257 supports and 127 NO supports.



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Edited on 04/02/23 @ 16:29:08 by Heda Vampiric (#56702)

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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Posted on
2022-02-21 13:36:31
My brain hurts too much to rng math but what probably happened was gnawrock on a soft and a heavy and the mot + extra soft hit the lottery and naturally passed. Iirc two markings of the same can pass only if one is a natural pass and the other is a gnawrock? Do not quote me on that though. Aggy might have to come beat me over the head with the correct information.



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Soundwave (#227912)


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2022-03-04 04:08:44
Support! I'd really like to breed for 5x leonid, or even more, slots permitting. It's really sad this isn't possible



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toyota corolla (#32767)

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2022-04-04 14:24:43
im pretty sure this is a thing again, i have a cub with briar rosette in 2 diff slots



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2022-04-04 15:49:36
Could you link them? There are still ways to achieve this they’re just too expensive to be deployed on anything other than a multi-rosette Lion.



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toyota corolla (#32767)

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2022-04-04 15:53:47
this baby has briar heavy rosette in both 8 and 9 !

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794160121813

im gonna clone em but ive seen other lions with double markings a few times over the past month



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2022-04-04 16:55:11
This Lion has another user in their former prides so I’m assuming you bought them? Do you know if gnawrocks were used in the breeding? If gnawrocks are used on both markings it forces them both to still pass (this is one of the - expensive - workarounds). The child has the exact same opacity as the parents marks, which is why I heavily suspect this. Another way around is if you just… clone a Lion that already has it, as you plan to do, but I can see this one isn’t a clone which leads me back to the first option.



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Talmoi (#16689)

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2022-04-04 19:25:06
Looks like a double gnaw litter, the siblings all have double rosette's aswell.



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🧋Blue🧋 (#248397)

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Posted on
2022-06-07 15:55:56
Support it just makes sense and it would make breeding so much easier



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Hex (#41384)


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2022-10-22 07:51:27
I literally managed to RMA Feline 9 Lilac twice on the same lion, at least let them pass at the same time smh



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3x Ros (#261567)

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Posted on
2022-12-10 22:43:04
Bumping this as I recently got a Double Gold Rosette heir and I'd really love if I could pass his markings twice



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Fridge 🌈 (#249436)

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2022-12-21 21:32:15
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=249436 Like this, I have double Blue Poinsettia snuggle?



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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2022-12-22 07:39:49
Sorry if this isn't what you meant, but;

I assume you got those by using the applicator, but the cubs produced by that lion will only ever get one slot or the other passed via breeding bc the coding will see one iteration of the marking pass and not let the other pass even if it otherwise would have. This suggestion would make it so the cubs would be allowed to have both pass from breeding ^^



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Fire 🔥 🇵🇸 (#35734)

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Posted on
2023-02-01 11:58:51
I don't see why this shouldn't be allowed, it would grant users the ability to make many more cool designs and breeding projects :)



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Hex (#41384)


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Posted on
2023-02-03 09:58:17
I have once again RMAd double markings (Stratosphere Vitiligo), lioden please just let double markings pass, this happens to me way too often 🥲
(RMA'd several markings more than once on that lion, namely F3 Dark Brown and Almond Crackle, but didn't keep them because...gross LOL)



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Chaparrita ❣️[G1
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Posted on
2023-02-04 14:31:37
I came back from a few years of Hiatus and found out this was no longer possible. I wanted Celestial speckles in double slots and after finding out (after wasting money on GB during the project) I found out it was no longer possible. It was very upsetting cuz it was a goal I had for years but can no longer continue it.

I dont see the harm in bringing this back. I think this will help BO markings in the future.



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